oil spill- Texas City

[JT]

.500 on those first 4 games would put you in first place on the Tournament challenge out here!

What a tought tournament to pick winners. My buddy out here said that Baylor resembled the Sweet Sixteen version of the Philadelphia 76er's. Lmao

Tonight I'm going with:
Iowa St -2
Virginia + 2
Kentucky + 4
Michigan -4

Go the other way and you could be driving a new cadillac Saturday morning if you bet enough.

[H.Maier]

Lol. I like 'em, JT. Remember to factor in the head coach. He doesn't handle the ball, but can change the outcome in a close one from win to lose in the blink of an eye. Kentucky, Louisville should be classic.

[JT]

That may be the best game yet. All the Cinderella's have bout gone home and the heavyweights will be left.

And tell Spook I got more oil and tar on my flip flops crossing Las Vegas Blvd from the Wynn Hotel to El Segundos yesterday to drink a margarita than he'll get chasing those imaginary butterflies on West Beach.

[H.Maier]

Lmfao.

[H.Maier]

Two best games of the tourney on at the same time. I'm getting vertigo switching channels.

[Gater]

Gentlemen
Its time for me to put in my 2 cents worth on this subject. I guarantee that Im going to offend someone and to be honest..... I don't give a damn if anyone gets upset. I have personally worked in and around the marine industry as well as the petro chem industry for most of my career. This "ACCIDENT" is not what it seems. We do NOT just have a spill by KIRBY.... What we have here is a total lack of care and regard for OUR bay system and eco system on OUR coast line. This all starts with KIRBYS SAFETY AND ACCIDENT RECORD. which is a complete F#%KING joke. Its easy to find if you contact the Coast Guard public records. But really all you need do is punch in KIRBY OIL TRANSPORT ACCIDENT AND CITATIONS ON YOU COMPUTER. Its a hell of a read. I spent some years of my life running as a highly UNDERQUALIFIED crew boat captain. I totally lucked into the job when I was younger. However several lives where put in my care. I faced many dangerous situations that thank lord I didn't cause any accidents or injuries. 99.9% of these transport companies do not even require experience in a specific vessel. if your license is good, well then your good too. These vessels exceed port speed constantly. Their captains (HA) generally have their deckhands at the helm during standard running(FACT!). Their maintenance of their vessels are nearly non existent with the exception of the loading hoses(WHICH ARE MANUFACTURED BY SOMEONE ELSE BY THE WAY) KIRBYS EXCUSE SO FAR----- FOG! FOG? seriously? YOU HAVE A HIGH RANGE AND LOW RANGE RADAR *******. NO KIRBY----- LACK OF TRAINING, LACK OF DRILLING, LACK OF SOP PROGAMS, LACK OF EXPERIENCE, LACK OF MAINTENECE,.... What this company has done is even further interrupt what is already a very very fragile bay and coastal area. Don't let them get away with just an apology... Open up your mouths and get pissed. Get their license pulled. Fine them to a level that they have to close their doors. Make them pay funds to EVERY COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN, RESTURANT, AND GUIDE For a 200 mile radius from the initial spill sit. DESTROY THEM UTTERLY. This is our Bay. we as anglers and conservationist have always gone the extra mile to keep it clean and safe for our children's , children's, children. DONT let all your stories and hard work be for nothing. Don't look you grandson or granddaughter in the eyes one day and have to explain how beautiful it USED TO LOOK. let them see it for themselves.

Make them pay every every COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN, RESTURANT, AND GUIDE FOR A 200MILE RADIUS AROUND THE SPILL SITE, FOR WHAT! That is a pretty dumb statement since many of these same people to the east of us are going tojail for stupid and fraudulent claims. You see Kirby Marine just like BP willmake it right but they wont stand by and watch people steal from them. If youfeel you must file a claim or sue go right ahead and sue away but I wouldhighly suggest anyone in doing so better have their poop together.

This was 164,000 spill not the Exxon Valdez and even though it was oil in thewater it happened in the best place possible. Most of the oil is currently inthe best place possible, in the gulf. The best thing for people like yourselfwould be to stay off the computer, do not talk to anyone especially the media.The media feeds off of stuff like this, they cause hysteria and actually causebusinesses to lose business and revenue because of their "the sky isfalling" type of coverage. In a few weeks most will not even rememberthis spill save the occasional tar ball washing up on the beachfront.

There is somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-30 million gallons of crude oilentering the port of TC every month. This is not counting the millions andmillions of gallons that goes up to Houston monthly. Nor does it count themillions of gallons of finished products that leave these ports on a dailybasis. In the grand scheme of things, 164,000 gallons is like dumping a gallonof oil in your swimming pool.

Another thing, the owners of Kirby Inland Marine do not reside in London,Chicago, New York City ect....
they live here on Galveston Bay, they hunt and fish in these same waters justlike me and you, the last thing they want is for something like this to happen.All accidents are preventable but they still happen and the investigation willdetermine a cause and who was at fault. No where in your post did you mentionthe shipping company, how do you know it was not the fault of the ship, whysingle out Kirby.

Again oil in the water anywhere is not good but we don't need to spread doomand gloom when its not needed. I do not know if you remember, maybe not oldenough but we have seen worse, much worse and we always survived. You did notoffend me and I hope I don't offend you. Please read my post from the otherboard and maybe you will understand a little better. Sorry for theramble...........Gater



What are we going to re-evaluate, all accidents are preventable but they still happen. Its not like those two Captains woke up that morning and decided to go to work to see how big of mess the could make.

Your not old enough to remember so look up the Burmah Agate oil spill.
it happened in 1979 just outside the jetties when the Burma Argate collided with the freighter "Mimosa". The Burmah Agate caught fire sank, killed 30+ crewmembers and leaked almost 3 million gallons of crude oil. The ship burned for over two months and the oil coated Galveston beaches and reached as far north as Smith Point in Trinity Bay.

So again, its not good to put any oil in the water and its not good to harm any wildlife, ***** happens whether we like it or not. The above reference is just to show you what you don't want to happen. One ask how long will mother nature keep cleaning up our messes, who knows but she has been doing a decent job for along time.

Consider this, the Burmah Agate disaster in 1979, Ixtoc blowout 1979, Killer freeze, 1983, Cat 3 hurricane 1983, killer freeze 1989, Mega Borg oil spill 1990......in a span of 11 years the Texas coast was hammered with environmental and natural disasters. What's really weird and amazing is that people lost business and money, fish and birds were killed yet we bounced back and mother nature bounced back. There was not internet and so the media was not near as bad as they are today. There was not lawyers, fishing guides, surf shop owners ect... lined up for law suits.

I have read were people are going to sell their boat, store them for the summer, start fishing freshwater, not eat seafood ect..... again any oil in the water is not good but the sky is not falling and its not the end of our coast as you know it.

[Gater]

oil spill

sorry for all the typos in my above post, my space bar is sticking.... gater

[SUPER SPOOK]

WOW! yall forgot about the point of the thread. THIS SUX FOR THE FISHING AND WILDLIFE. have no problem with oil, Wish they would drill a well in my back yard!

[westbaytroutassasin]

Your right the real thing that suffers is the eco system. It all starts from a very small one celled creature that develops into the very plankton that is the build block to the food chain. When you disrupt that or worse go even further beyond that to the basic genetics by introducing a synthesized chemical agent into it natural growth you destroy. Im not saying get rid of the oil, that would be absurd. I do respect your opinion, but I must disagree and agree with you. I do remember the natural and oil disasters that stuck out in my youth, but we cannot just link the natural disasters into this debate as they are a part of the NATURAL CYCLE not the manufactured cycle we use as our base economy. What my position is; I believe these companies should have to follow much stricter guidelines, MANDATORY DONATIONS to wildlife and COASTAL WATER re-habitation programs with NO government restrictions but an elected board of experienced environmentalist but with laymen's knowledge of their districts to decide how to allocate those funds, a board made up of local anglers, guides, commercial small business fisherman, marine biochemists, environmentalists. I do remember many things and one thing that sticks out the most as in my youth it was nothing for me and grandma to go out on the boat and comeback with two limits or trout reds and flounder. I do form my own opinion its true but I do believe the earth is talking to us and its fading faster than we are recovering it. Where does our duty lie? The same place our responsibility does.

[JT]

I think you should move to Colorado where you can buy weed at a 7-11 or a quick stop gas station. They'd love your take on this subject and you could parlay this with the anti oil and gas fraking movement up there, sell your comic book collection and finance a run for a State office.

[H.Maier]

Was talking to my neighbor Friday about the oil spill situation, as he had been stuck on the peninsula all week due to the ferry closure. I figured with the currents in the ship channel my beloved east bay would've caught hell all the way to frozen point. To my surprise, he stated that the cleanup crews had done a very good job and that he whacked trout around rollover all last week. My friend Superspook Danny came by and dropped him a reel for cleaning and he was all packed and ready for a return to Bolivar. Hope nothing goes south in the next few days and he has to make that trip through High Island and Winnie, down 10 and 146 to get back to our island. Wanted me to come with him but I'm waiting for the all-clear whistle.

[WestEndAngler]

Growing up in Galveston you had tar balls constantly washing ashore... I haven't seen them in years. I'd say the industry has learned to lessen the impact on the environment.

[kenny]

Those tar balls came from Ixtoc well owned by Pemex and drilled by Sedco with untimely became Transocean. http://incidentnews.noaa.gov/incident/6250