Coal in Matagorda

[ALLWELD]

Fayette power plant, lake limstone power plant, colleto creek power plant, caleveras power plant, and tpl lake are just some examples of power plants that dump their discharge into the waters we fish. These lakes have some extremly good fishing. These are all older coal plants and the newer ones are much cleaner. The power companys want to build new more efficient and cleaner power plants to replace the old dirty ones but we wont let them, it does not make sense to me. These power companys dump a lot of money into the enviroment also, but no talks about that. If you are worried about pollution in the river look at LCRA. they are the lower colorado river athority. They have several older coal plants on the colorado river and it is just fine. Several power plants have also worked with TPWD to introduce fresh water reds into there lakes. I think the cheaper power and all the good these companys do for there image is worth it.

[reeltime]

A lot of people have forgotten about the STX Energy Plant. I know I did. BTW, I am not against it. There are many of these plants all over the US. They try and stay WAY out of the spot light. I think that with all of the new regs on electric generation with coal, its probably expensive to operate. Here in Portland Texas, wind is a HUGE industry. Just wish they wouldnt look like propellers. I know, its probably the best way to go, but its not all that attractive.

I noticed all the big fancy windmill's when i drove to corpus the other day...i don't recall them being there a few years back...I'm a bit on the reserved side on there ability to provide cost effective energy.

[JT]

Fayette power plant, lake limstone power plant, colleto creek power plant, caleveras power plant, and tpl lake are just some examples of power plants that dump their discharge into the waters we fish. These lakes have some extremly good fishing. These are all older coal plants and the newer ones are much cleaner. The power companys want to build new more efficient and cleaner power plants to replace the old dirty ones but we wont let them, it does not make sense to me. These power companys dump a lot of money into the enviroment also, but no talks about that. If you are worried about pollution in the river look at LCRA. they are the lower colorado river athority. They have several older coal plants on the colorado river and it is just fine. Several power plants have also worked with TPWD to introduce fresh water reds into there lakes. I think the cheaper power and all the good these companys do for there image is worth it.

I agree with you...I know the limestone project well because i bought coal and lignite leases & worked for the mining company in the old days. alot of the other ones rail coal in from Montana.

BUT...ive read numerous articles in re: canceling coal, nuk plants etc because of all the cheap gas from all these resource plays that robalo loves.

im surprised they are building this one.

[reeltime]

Fayette power plant, lake limstone power plant, colleto creek power plant, caleveras power plant, and tpl lake are just some examples of power plants that dump their discharge into the waters we fish. These lakes have some extremly good fishing. These are all older coal plants and the newer ones are much cleaner. The power companys want to build new more efficient and cleaner power plants to replace the old dirty ones but we wont let them, it does not make sense to me. These power companys dump a lot of money into the enviroment also, but no talks about that. If you are worried about pollution in the river look at LCRA. they are the lower colorado river athority. They have several older coal plants on the colorado river and it is just fine. Several power plants have also worked with TPWD to introduce fresh water reds into there lakes. I think the cheaper power and all the good these companys do for there image is worth it.

Years ago there was some problems with the discharge water at the bastrop and fayette power plant.The biggest amount of dirty water comes from austin like the clean rooms.The reel problem is we keep restricting the flow of our rivers and that effect's our marshes...

[small bites]

The water allocations. This whole business of water is so left out of the mainstream conversation and is a huge part of the cities,farms, etc, that rely on their proportion. It starts at the headwaters and work its way down. Boggles my mind.

[Swells]

Folks, White Stallion already has several permits to operate and is working on the waste water permit, the hardest one. I got a press clip from Electric Power magazine below.

You ain't gonna stop it now, at least in my opinion since I learned more. They're just keep re-designing the waste water engineering until it meets some specs. I guess a good lawyer could hang it up but I get the sense they can only delay it. It'll be a little bigger than Fayette in terms of megawatts, if you know that power plant with its 2,400 acres of excellent bass fishing.

The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) last week issued an air quality permit to the White Stallion Energy Center, a 1,320-MW coal- and petroleum coke–fired power plant proposed for construction in Bay City, Texas.

The agency’s issuance of the state air quality permit, prevention of significant deterioration air quality permit, plantwide applicability limit permit, and hazardous air pollutant major source permit means that developers are closer to building the $2.5 billion project on the east side of the Colorado River. White Stallion must still obtain a Title V operating permit as well as a wastewater permit before starting operation.

[small bites]

Okay, let me throw this out there, what market is this electricity supplying? And as the population of the US grows, the need for power is going to grow with it. Its something that has to be dealt with. Hydro power is not an option in a lot of places, and actually, dams are being frowned upon as it screws with the ecology of the fish life cycle. Its a sore spot with a lot of naturalists, messes with the fish spawning beds, etc. And honestly, I believe it does. I wish I could read that coal plant permit. Just because I'd like to. Need to research. It's got to be public info.

[SUPER SPOOK]

bummer

[Funk Shoal Brutha]

Fayette power plant, lake limstone power plant, colleto creek power plant, caleveras power plant, and tpl lake are just some examples of power plants that dump their discharge into the waters we fish. These lakes have some extremly good fishing. These are all older coal plants and the newer ones are much cleaner. The power companys want to build new more efficient and cleaner power plants to replace the old dirty ones but we wont let them, it does not make sense to me. These power companys dump a lot of money into the enviroment also, but no talks about that. If you are worried about pollution in the river look at LCRA. they are the lower colorado river athority. They have several older coal plants on the colorado river and it is just fine. Several power plants have also worked with TPWD to introduce fresh water reds into there lakes. I think the cheaper power and all the good these companys do for there image is worth it.

Big freshwater IMPOUNDMENTS are not even close to the same as a narrow river channel. And they are man-made impoundments, they don't dump into our bay systems. I guess everything is OK if it is not in your backyard... This thing will change the Colorado River as I have known it as a kid in a bad, bad way. There are enough toxins coming down from farm runoff already. Millions of gallons more, that close to the bays I grew up fishing, is just lovely... if you are going to profit from it. There will be no cheap electricity generated from it as they say... electricity is put into the grid and bought and sold like cattle or stocks.

[Deke]

I would prefer a closed loop system as well. But my father does a lot of business with the coal industry, and they are so heavily regulated that the plants are a clean way to get energy . The regs they have to adhere to are super restrictive, and the companies he deals with go above and beyond to stay ahead of the enviro nazis and the gubment.