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  • Filling in Rollover Pass?

    I heard on the Outdoor Show this morning that there is a dredge behind Rollover and its pumping into Rollover.James Plaag called in and said he saw it yesterday.Anyone else see anything?Closing Rollover will hurt that part of East Bay
    NK
    Beer,its not just for breakfast

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    The GDN paper had an article about a month ago-said it was being planned to fill in. Lots of folks commented that was wrong to do. I guess the state and COE are doing it. Article said they were only planning as I recall. Darn shame-that pass helps with tidal movement.
    "Hey Hillary, regarding the Benghazi Attack on 9/11-we'll just blame it on that movie, not my total lack of security. By the way, what's so significant about 9/11 anyway-was that a date my buddy Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground blew up a government building?" asked Obama to Hillary. BEAUTIFY AMERICA, RUN OVER A LIBERAL, THEN BACK UP AND SEE IF HE'S DEAD.

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    • #3
      Thats pretty drastic, I can't imagine the effect that will have on the fishing from the surf and the bay in the area!

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      • #4
        GOOD!

        Originally posted by Unclehandy View Post
        Thats pretty drastic, I can't imagine the effect that will have on the fishing from the surf and the bay in the area!
        Its needed, its never been passable or dredged if it was that would be one thing, but its costing the state to much and going to make Bolivar an Island not a Peninsula. Also its going to help with the erosion issue. The only downside would be the tidal current / flow through the area.

        We are West End Anglers, a saltwater tribe!

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        • #5
          They've been tossing around that idea for years now, and i guess they're finally gonna put those words into action.
          "If our father had his say, nobody who did not know how to catch a fish would be allowed to disgrace a fish by catching him." Norman Maclean, from A River Runs Through It

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          • #6
            Remember...this was a man made pass. I heard back in the 50's, before it was built, there were actually some very nice grass beds down there. Also heard that 98% of East Bays flushing goes thru the jetty's not Rollover. I really can't say how it will effect East Bay, but I can think of a lot of other bay systems on the Texas coast that have less tidal flow and flushing thru them and it hasn't hurt them too much, or if any.....I guess time will tell.
            Don't be a Nancy!
            If it smells like fish....you know I've been there!

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            • #7
              There was a write up on how they didn't want it opened back in the 50's. It was a neat story of how the Bay use to be with a grass bottom. I can't remember where I read it. I don't fish that area at all really but I don't see how it could hurt to have it closed.

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              • #8
                They dredge it, but infrequently and just as "needed"-that is one of the reasons to close it-dredging costs. I really don't have a horse in the race, but the surf in front of the pass was/is killer fishing at certain times and that will be over for good. After they filled in a lot of the spoil north of the ICW around the radio tower, I quit going to east bay-they mucked up my fishing spots just like Lyda Ann Trust Fund Beotch and the jerks in City Council did when they closed most of West Beach to traffic for the "Pointe Cardboard" ugly development by SLP. Dang I hate the Galveston City Council. She's in Cuba right now-hope she stays there forever!!
                "Hey Hillary, regarding the Benghazi Attack on 9/11-we'll just blame it on that movie, not my total lack of security. By the way, what's so significant about 9/11 anyway-was that a date my buddy Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground blew up a government building?" asked Obama to Hillary. BEAUTIFY AMERICA, RUN OVER A LIBERAL, THEN BACK UP AND SEE IF HE'S DEAD.

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                • #9
                  I think the building of the Texas City Dike had the greatest impact of all on tidal movement. I talked to a lady biologist some years ago and some of the stuff she showed me was incredible.

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                  • #10
                    Closing Rollover Pass

                    I think this subjet needs to pushed to the top of our priority list. It will affect all of us in the Galveston Bay Complex.
                    from the Daily News:





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                    Plan to fill in Rollover Pass proceeding

                    By T.J. Aulds
                    The Daily News

                    Published November 19, 2009

                    The Texas General Land Office next week is expected to submit its application to fill in Rollover Pass, the waterway that cuts through the Bolivar Peninsula from the Gulf of Mexico to Galveston Bay.

                    State officials told county commissioners Wednesday that the closure of the pass will come with the construction of a new fishing pier to keep some of the recreation draw of the area intact.

                    The application to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is the final phase of the process before the pass can be closed. Once — and if — the application is approved, the state land office would begin filling in the 200-foot wide, one-eighth mile long channel as early as January 2011.

                    Ray Newby, a geomorphologist with the land office, told commissioners that filling the pass would not be done all at once but instead in phases and would take up to four months to complete.

                    Newby also announced that the state wouldn’t leave anglers who frequent Rollover Pass high and dry. The land office is proposing building a large fishing pier that would extend out into the Gulf of Mexico from land adjacent to where the pass cuts through the peninsula. The pier is a trade-off for closing the pass, which is a “lightning rod” issue for many residents on Bolivar, especially members of the Gilchrist Community Association, which has been fighting the state’s plan to close up the pass.

                    Last month, the association sent a letter to U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison asking her to step in and stop the closure. Opponents of the closure argue it would kill the Gilchrist economy, which already was mauled by Hurricane Ike.

                    The state legislature earlier this year approved $5.85 million to fill in the pass, and the land office applied for $4.37 million in federal hazard mitigation flood prevention grant money to pay for the project.

                    Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson supports the pass being closed in part because the state spends about $1 million a year dredging it. He also argues that the pass leads to greater beach erosion along the peninsula that contributed to severe flooding problems and may have made the storm surge damage from Ike worse, especially in the Crystal Beach area.

                    The land office is pressing ahead with filling the pass because the money has to be spent before the start of the next legislative session in 2011.

                    Newby said the land office plans to hold a public hearing on the closure plans either in February or March.


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                    Copyright © 2009 The Galveston County Daily News

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                    • #11
                      Good first post TIMG. Thanks-yep, will be a sad day if they fill it in, but looks like they will. Meeting is in February or March-keep your ears and eyes open for it.
                      "Hey Hillary, regarding the Benghazi Attack on 9/11-we'll just blame it on that movie, not my total lack of security. By the way, what's so significant about 9/11 anyway-was that a date my buddy Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground blew up a government building?" asked Obama to Hillary. BEAUTIFY AMERICA, RUN OVER A LIBERAL, THEN BACK UP AND SEE IF HE'S DEAD.

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                      • #12
                        I am for filling it in.

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                        • #13
                          i'm kinda like the tides on this one .....i've caught some nice fish there.
                          I LIVE IN A SMALL COMMUNITY WITH A LARGE PROBLEM AND A PROBLEM.

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                          • #14
                            Fill it in!
                            We are West End Anglers, a saltwater tribe!

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                            • #15
                              But another place lost for the poor ole mom and pop with the kids bank fishing family. Somebody looses with each change. I hope it helps East Bay and doesn't screw it up. I know fish go in and out of Rollover with the tides. The flats behind Rollover can be good. We'll see what happens.
                              GEORGE A. BRANARD, COLOR SERGEANT, CO. L, 1 ST TEXAS INFANTRY, HOOD'S TEXAS BRIGADE, C.S.A. : S.C.V.

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