What is FWE's opinion on this?

[kenny]

I support a private company going after this. I dont think the government should be able to tell them no.

Unfortunately the government WILL support and subsidize the venture.
BTW If the government can tell you what kind of light bulb you can buy and use, they can damn sure tell you you can't put a bunch of wind turbines in the GOM. LOL

[FlatoutFishin]

I support private industry too...hey, heard they want to put a chit plant up in your back yard Capt Kyle, and then a couple boobie and latino bars next to that, but hey it's all good...just hard working Americans and free enterprise doing their thing!

And yes, it will be government subsidized in some form or fashion. No one in their right mind can operate something like that as unproven as it is with out help. If it really worked...everyone would be doing it...unfortunately it will probably be you and I in the form of insurance money when those things go down in the next blow...if they last that long!

[Captain Kyle]

If it will get subsidies i completly oppose it. Subsidies make it a government venture.

The only way i would be ok with it would be if the business did everything on their own.

[reeltime]

They got a sheetload of them down south around portland.are they working out?I think there an eyesore.No gubermint involvement!

[Captain Kyle]

Unfortunately the government WILL support and subsidize the venture.
BTW If the government can tell you what kind of light bulb you can buy and use, they can damn sure tell you you can't put a bunch of wind turbines in the GOM. LOL

I agree.

[small bites]

my personal opinion is , having seen the wind farms around CC. Have seen the machines laying around the ports of Freeport and Galveston waiting for delivery to where ever. My first issue is that ... okay my 'made in the USA' deal kicked in. These machines were being shipped in from not here. So. . . if the decision is to use them, lets make them here in the good ol'e USA First, then we can work on the other problems. OMG, I cannot tell you all about the bird issues with these things, and I never even considered the salt problems. But it is an alternative power. Just dont know how long it takes to get the money back on the investment. Anyone know that?

[corndog]

OK gang here is my take on it. Do you really think they are profitable? If so let me ask you this , why arent all of the oil companies in line to get them online? Well I can tell you if you cant figure it out. Because they are not profitable.The maojr oil companies have invested more money then anyone on alternative energy.If it is profitable they will be the front runners on making it happen. Dont let the media trick you into thinking they are oil compaies. They are all energy companies. The day there is a profit over oil versus wind they will dominate that market too!!. The buggy and whip maker did not invent the auto, the railroad did not invent the airline and the day there is a more efficient energy source the major energy companies will follow. Wake up people this is simple math. I just dont know sometimes!!

[boom]

I've got machines on rent to Mitsubishi for their windfarms down south of Rivera on the Kennedy Ranch shoreline. They are using them for maintance and repair. I am sending more units down there and don't expect them to come back. The windmills are a maintence nightmare.

[Robalo]

Obama says they work, so STFU, waste tax monies and hug a termite ridden tree!! Ohhh, this tree feels like a 5'7" blond with blue eyes and big ^i^s and a fine ***. wonder where the knothole is?

I am surprised at all you-badmouthing Obama's way to save the Earth-Shame on you. For that, you get no foodstamps for 2 weeks and no WIC cheese either!! Tell your hooker, sorry, I got time-outted on food stamps, so no can pay this week. Another economic shortfall to the economy, damn!!

Who cares if electricity costs $1 per kilowatt-sheeit, Obama be paying my mortgage and my gas anyways cause he done owes me.

[JT]

Those things dont work onshore worth a sheet. what makes them think offshore will be diff ?

Theres a better chance of the mcf/gas Robalo contributes after eating mexican food reducing eneregy prices than that bull ****.

[OR19]

This thread like always is fairly amusing, definately shows the conservative bias that the WEA base has (me included), but most of all it is a sad testiment to the extreme ineptness, lack of common sense, and in general shows what a bunch of dumbarses we have running this country....My solution scrap the wind idea...take all the unused turbines, blades etc. and sink off the Galveston Jetties just inside federal waters so I can have a wintertime snapper spot close to League City...I'll vote for the guy who gets that done....OR19

[Captain Kyle]

Nice you run!! I want close in snapper!

We do eventually need a renewable source of energy however it shouldn't be too be artificially pushed by tax dollars. When something viable in our current market appears and can legitimately compete with coal/natural gas I wont oppose it.

Even with government life support wind energy costs more than standard coal/natural gas right now.

[Swells]

Naw y'all don't get it. This is a private company looking to get into the energy market, and it's their business if they fall over, malfunction, blow up, or corrode to smithereens. The government is NOT supporting it. IN fact, the military doesn't like them because they mess with their radar. There is no big subsidy. The company has already leased the land out to 9 miles from the GLO, and Jerry Patterson, A HARDCORE CONSERVATIVE GUNSLINGING REPUBLICAN, said it was a good deal to collect rent on leased lands for the sake of Texas.

According to the GLO lease agreement, the company usually has 5 years to do something on the lease, even a pilot turbine. That's what they're proposing right now, since the Army Corps of Engineers also has over-water jurisdiction. Please get your facts right.

Now why would A HARDCORE CONSERVATIVE GUNSLINGING REPUBLICAN such as Jerry Patterson, Governor Perry, and others support such a large project? Could it be that like any oil & gas resource, it would bring lease and production taxes into the state coffers, at no cost to the State of Texas? Hmmm ... I think y'all need to easy up on that one.

As Mont knows, there is an area around Port Mansfield within 9 miles that is some very good red snapper fishing, and if I had a comment it would be to avoid that area. But there are some 20-mile zones north and south of there that are out of the shipping lanes and not used by much of anybody except some surf and shark fishermen, maybe a few hippie nudists. I really don't think they care much. I don't think the huge pylons with do much for the fishing good or bad. Some stupid birds might fly into the thing, if you're the LIBERAL TREE HUGGER TYPE.

[Robalo]

I like when they catch fire and burn-almost looks like a camp out marshmallow on a stick!!

We all know that geothermal resources, tidal resources and wind will save the earth and that Obama will encourage all to do so if he could by passing carbon credit laws, but until then, we should all save whatever fuel we can and go green-like the guy in the Honda Civic add with little baby pretty birdies in his beard. I think we should follow California and re-use toilet paper and whatever else to save the earth from ourselves.

Like Kenny, I am turning a new leaf-the nicer, liberal me-can I have another valium or xanax please? Ha Ha. More lies to follow.

[OR19]

I agree Swells, I was just going by what I read here...if it is private enterprise with no gov't help and the man/company is investing their own capital then rock n roll...I hope they are successful...as far as the cost efficiency of wind vs. petro...that aint my field...but I think what corndog said makes a lot of sense...if it was profitable then exxon, chevron, etc. would be doing it? Too bad for the hippie nudist, and I still would like some state water snapper fishing off the galvez jetties!