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  • #16
    Im too stupid to see otherwise. Leave your jon boat docked out of the discussion. It aint Americans problem how Canada ships that tar oil sand and not crude. Let them pipeline or ship it however they want to China and India.
    I could care less about the Canadians shipping problems to foreign soils. \
    Besides, you like Canada so much move up there with Sen Cruz and take his Cuban ol man with him.
    "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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    • #17
      Let's face it. It takes less overall input to ship by rail/tanker trucks than it does by underground pipeline. By motorized transport, all you do is fill the container and send it on it's way. Lots more time and money spent on logistically running a steel pipeline. materials, right of ways to be secured or not, environmental laws to be adhered to. Excavating, installing, testing, and backfilling the trench. You get the picture. But when the initial outlay is paid for, the only expense is maintaing the integrity of the line. The expense of the over land route never stops, never goes down, and in most cases goes up. it's kind of like a check that never stops coming in. Do he math and the only one that benefits from this situation is the transport company...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SCHU View Post
        Let's face it. It takes less overall input to ship by rail/tanker trucks than it does by underground pipeline. By motorized transport, all you do is fill the container and send it on it's way. Lots more time and money spent on logistically running a steel pipeline. materials, right of ways to be secured or not, environmental laws to be adhered to. Excavating, installing, testing, and backfilling the trench. You get the picture. But when the initial outlay is paid for, the only expense is maintaing the integrity of the line. The expense of the over land route never stops, never goes down, and in most cases goes up. it's kind of like a check that never stops coming in. Do he math and the only one that benefits from this situation is the transport company...
        The bottom line is that warren buffet keeps sending in checks to the dems, Whatever it takes, right?
        "Nobody's so poor that democrats can't get rich screwing 'em."
        boom

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kenny View Post
          Bruce, why do you object to building of the the Keystone pipeline?
          Interesting leap there, Kenny, as I haven't stated any objection to it. My attention was directed at the news source.
          "Curmudgeon only pawn in game of life."


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          • #20
            Nope, bottom line is let Canada do whatever it wants on her territories with the tar sand oil and any and all environmental risks.
            Only ones to benefit from the tar sands is Canada, China, India. And Canadian Ted Cruz and his Cuban poppy.
            I just threw that in their using Booms logic with Warren Buffet. Right ?
            "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by mgstei1 View Post
              Im too stupid to see otherwise. m.
              Well I'll be dayemed!! MG said something else I agree with him on.

              I thought you werent going to post anymore? Somewhere, there is somebody with a trigger happy finger on the ban button.

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              • #22
                MG:

                The KXL moves CRUDE not Tar sand. If Obama let the Canucks send it here, it's refined here which means JOBS but you apparently prefer jobs in India or China, not the USA. Maybe you can get a job in China or India? I'm sure the one-way airfare is not too much and likely most of us on here would help you pay for it and watch you board the flight-can you take Obama with you-and Warren Buffett (and Warren's secretary)?
                "Hey Hillary, regarding the Benghazi Attack on 9/11-we'll just blame it on that movie, not my total lack of security. By the way, what's so significant about 9/11 anyway-was that a date my buddy Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground blew up a government building?" asked Obama to Hillary. BEAUTIFY AMERICA, RUN OVER A LIBERAL, THEN BACK UP AND SEE IF HE'S DEAD.

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                • #23
                  My fear of the ban has subsided the last time I was banned and I am so thrilled that you and I have agreed upon something once again. I can, and do, and will correct, and also laugh at myself dealing with a certain kind of person. I'm laughing right now.
                  If you get a thrill out of anything that I thread than you are easily pleased and that certainly explains lots of things to me.
                  I still say getting back to this thread that who gives a sheet what Canada does and wants to do as long as it does not affect in anyway any American or her properties. I say America does not need that pipeline for anything and the Canadians can pipe elsewhere. Its to plain a problem once the facts are dealt with.
                  "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Robalo View Post
                    MG:

                    The KXL moves CRUDE not Tar sand. If Obama let the Canucks send it here, it's refined here which means JOBS but you apparently prefer jobs in India or China, not the USA. Maybe you can get a job in China or India? I'm sure the one-way airfare is not too much and likely most of us on here would help you pay for it and watch you board the flight-can you take Obama with you-and Warren Buffett (and Warren's secretary)?
                    Yep right now it carries crude on the exisisting line. And no the refinery jobs are already processing domestic crude and does not need or want the tar sands with a carrier to refine. It all will be exported. If you want to help Canada and india and china create jobs be my guest. I don't.
                    And please, I'll wait for the carrier to deliver that airline ticket and take a cruise back. Expeditite it as I know some of you 3% have the change. That's perfectly fine with me. Please send lots of spare change also as I still want to donate more cash to some fine candidates here in Texas.
                    Wonder if JT will lug my luggage for me ? And I'll try and get Boom to drive me. And Roboll I want you for my spokesman.
                    "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mgstei1 View Post
                      I was for it before I was against it, when I took a hard look at which nation of people the whole damn thing would benefit the most.
                      Let the tar sand and the dispersants to carry it in a pipe, be Canada's baby.
                      Whole thing is even more political than Benghazi fiasco.
                      What's comical is you pull facts out of your (censored). Then when somebody who knows better(see robalo) corrects you on them , you move forward with your argument like it makes no difference.

                      What's just as comical is you spent a career as a union hat. Roblao and I both have been in the oil business a combined 70 years having both entered in about 1979 with exploration and production companies. Yet because you "read" some (censored) off of a liberal website or hear it from someone else that doesn't know (censored), you state it as fact until someone with superior knowledge corrects you.

                      Please Kindly STFU about things you know nothing about, and people might quit questioning your intelligence.

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                      • #26
                        Send out what you believe I lied about and you will get facts.
                        IMHO I said " I" want Canada to do what she has to do and leave her stinking oil sands out of the pipes going through the US and then on the China and India.
                        I don't really care about how much oil experience you have and don't care if I wore a union hat, I do not care and I know for a fact the new section will be flowing oil sand tars mixed with a carrier so it will flow and that company don't give a rats arse about any spill or break on American soil. Hell ask the Indians in the Dakotas. They know more than 2 ol washed out ex oil hands that bowed down to the oil companies.
                        And I could care less and really do not care if you or any others here question intelligence. There is lacking everywhere.
                        "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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                        • #27
                          Washed out? Robalos been on a diet and working out and I thought he looked good last time I saw him.

                          And dude, trust me; you'd bow down and bend over backwards to kiss the *** of an employer that would pay you the $$$$ like Robalos been paid in his career. How funny.

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                          • #28
                            Thats probably why he has done so well, we used to call them brown nosers or sux butts, and every business or company or crew has them. Especially in a non union outfit where no one knows who or how much someone doing the same work side by side you is making. Or they make them foremen or superintendents. But ol Robablow may be just lucky and using that union work ethic might have just busted his arse to get that career. Yeah, you right about that JT. Another thing we agree on. Before long, we may be bestest friends.

                            I always remember what an ol Tankerman told me back in my 20's.
                            A business owner will always take the sorriest no good for nothing sux butt and make him the boss and give him a few cents more an hour and he will get the most work out of the rest of the crew because it makes everyone po'ed and work harder to try to get ahead.

                            Works every time.

                            Headed to Chocolate, the croaker are running.
                            "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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                            • #29
                              The irony of the pipeline being passed is the ranchers and landowners in Nebraska are against it affecting the aquaphor and running right outside their bedroom window. Last time I checked, they,re not exactly a bunch of liberals.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mgstei1 View Post
                                Thats probably why he has done so well, we used to call them brown nosers or sux butts, and every business or company or crew has them. Especially in a non union outfit where no one knows who or how much someone doing the same work side by side you is making. Or they make them foremen or superintendents. But ol Robablow may be just lucky and using that union work ethic might have just busted his arse to get that career. Yeah, you right about that JT. Another thing we agree on. Before long, we may be bestest friends.

                                I always remember what an ol Tankerman told me back in my 20's.
                                A business owner will always take the sorriest no good for nothing sux butt and make him the boss and give him a few cents more an hour and he will get the most work out of the rest of the crew because it makes everyone po'ed and work harder to try to get ahead.

                                Works every time.

                                Headed to Chocolate, the croaker are running.
                                First off MG, I have not called you names-you however continue to play childish, immature games in that regard-but like my father said, Once someone is an azzhole, they will always be an azzhole no matter what you say or do to them. I always found that to be true.

                                Secondly, I posted a fine example of why Obama has 'exempted' business from his ObamaCare-the reason is because it will have a drastic negative effect on employment and the economy-that has been proven.

                                Instead of having an intelligent rebuttal, you skirt and dodge just like Obama-mainly because the fact is true and there is no intelligent rebuttal to the truth. I sincerely hope that all our children and grandchildren do not suffer dire consequences caused by people like you-low information voters that vote based on what some Union Rep says or some socialist says or 'community organizer' promises someone like 'Peggy Joseph' because they are a lazy person wanting 'freebies', like a large majority of Obama supporters.
                                "Hey Hillary, regarding the Benghazi Attack on 9/11-we'll just blame it on that movie, not my total lack of security. By the way, what's so significant about 9/11 anyway-was that a date my buddy Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground blew up a government building?" asked Obama to Hillary. BEAUTIFY AMERICA, RUN OVER A LIBERAL, THEN BACK UP AND SEE IF HE'S DEAD.

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