Obama on Debt Ceiling 2007

[JT]

there...i feel better now

[JT]

gross

[mgstei1]

He was instructed and armed with bean bag ammo and to return fire with that 1st. Was killed before they could return fire with live ammo. My whole gripe with this if you would just calm down was the rules of engagement they were given working the border. The cartels knew this also. I'm retired so I view and read ALL I can on most issues that affect our country local news, USA news and foreign news and also neutral reports. Benghazi facts are out there if you have the time. It was a cluster Fu__ for sure. Lots of blame to go around for all involved. Timing was the critical factor in that mess. It happened and was over before reaction time from any payback or arrival of any help. And Stevens had turned down extra security just a few weeks before. My gripe on our foreign embassies is that we should not be in any hostile country that is a known enemy and either should any Americans that can become in harms way at any moment. The real joke is America trying to patrol and control the world. One of the few things that I liked and supported GW Bush was his speech he made after 9/11. "you are either with us, or against us" But in the end that's all it was a speech. We have WMD's that should have been used just a few times to get hostile countries attention. Iraq and Afghanistan should have been over in a few minutes. War is hell and in any fight you use everything and anything to win. One punch or slug and the talking is over. I'm a moderate democrat. Not a far left loonie or a far right loonie. And yes I am highly patriotic in spite of your opinion.

[Robalo]

You Patriotic-ha, what a f'ing joke. He was armed. You need to learn how to read. They were on Patrol for drug smugglers when 5 Mexicans ambushed them-but of course the guns the Mexicans had were squirt guns since Obama and Holder's Fast & Furious Gun Running never happened in your mind and to hell with our own Government's admission of Fast & Furious and that 2 guns "walked" were found with 4 of the five Mexicans captured. Same with Benghazi-you will never read the facts-you'll just believe the crap that Obama spewed, as well as dodged in the Romney Debate where Comrade Obama dodged any questions blaming the Administration for the failure and deaths in Benghazi, instead Obama said he had to meet the slain people's families at the AF Base when the coffins arrived-yes he did, but he was wholly responsible for their deaths by failing to act when asked for assistance/security.

You are a joke and part of the problem with the US today-you are so gullible, you believe the lies and BS from Obama w/o even questioning it and you ignore ALL FACTS that you disagree with-shame on you. A True American questions the Government; otherwise, we'd be living in the former USSR, under an even more watchful eye than we regrettably have today thanks again to Obama continuing the NSA email/phone spying.

[mgstei1]

I know exactly what a phyrric victory is. Kinda like Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam and Korea or the debt ceiling debate going on in Congress. I never called Terry a coward. All he had was bean bags to return fire. He did the right thing facing an AK47. You and I both would have run with bean bags to lob back. That's not a coward that's smart. That's my gripe about it. Being heavily armed is what was needed.I am as patriotic of any of you and love my country as much also. My principles and ideas of what I want our country to be is just different than some of you. Don't mean Im right or wrong and neither are you. But if you so much like using name calling and pulling the cloak over yourself using your patriotism to make a point than keep it up. I can certainly take it and just laugh to myself. We are all patriotic or we would not be here.

[boom]

mg - evidently you have no clue what a phyrric victory is -- here.. this help?

I'll paraphrase King Phyrrus for you.. "another such victory and I am undone"..

He also has misunderstandings of words like argument, fight and clue.

[Ibtsoom]

mg - evidently you have no clue what a phyrric victory is -- here.. this help?

I'll paraphrase King Phyrrus for you.. "another such victory and I am undone"..

[Robalo]

Sorry, show me the ballistics tests that prove the round that killed the agent came from one of the weapons found at the scene. The drug cartels were smarter than border agents armed with bean bags. That's the atrocity here. The agent was running away instead returning fire. There is no hard proof that the Benghazi fiasco was caused by anyone in upper government. Its over. When asked a few weeks before Stevens turned down extra security. Best thing is not to listen to talking points and opinions and stick to hard facts. IMO and I guess aint good enough. And Mr. Boom, a 1/3 of the 1/2 of the House are the far right is holding our country hostage because they could not grasp the idea that a black man won the presidency twice and proves that the American people wanted change and to go in another direction away from the right. Get over it. 2014 is coming up awful fast.

You calling Agent Brian Terry a coward? If so, you need to efff-off. Some American you are-you should be ashamed of yourself. How terrible. YOU SIR, ARE AN IGNORANT "HUMAN BEING" TO CALL A HERO A COWARD. HE WAS AMBUSHED-MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO DOWN TO DO HIS JOB. TO EVEN IMPLY HE WAS A COWARD IS JUST ATROCIOUS.

FYI DUMBAZZ:

Agent Terry was a U.S. Marine Corps veteran and had served with the United States Border Patrol for 3-1/2 years. He had previously served as a police officer with the Lincoln Park, Michigan, Police Department. He is survived by his parents, brother, two sisters, five nieces, and one nephew and is buried in Michigan Memorial Park, Flat Rock, Wayne County, Michigan. He was top of his graduating class.

Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/20596-bo...#ixzz2gTY3v78S

[mgstei1]

Oh we all will. The country depends on it.

[boom]

Enjoy your Pyrrhic victories.

[mgstei1]

Truth hurts huh! We pull the race card and the right pulls the patriotism or faith card. A discussion is not to win or lose. That's a fight. Wait until Hillary runs in 2016. Then I can pull the sex card.

[boom]

There it is, the race card!!!!!! You just lost the discussion.

[mgstei1]

Sorry, show me the ballistics tests that prove the round that killed the agent came from one of the weapons found at the scene. The drug cartels were smarter than border agents armed with bean bags. That's the atrocity here. The agent was running away instead returning fire. There is no hard proof that the Benghazi fiasco was caused by anyone in upper government. Its over. When asked a few weeks before Stevens turned down extra security. Best thing is not to listen to talking points and opinions and stick to hard facts. IMO and I guess aint good enough. And Mr. Boom, a 1/3 of the 1/2 of the House are the far right is holding our country hostage because they could not grasp the idea that a black man won the presidency twice and proves that the American people wanted change and to go in another direction away from the right. Get over it. 2014 is coming up awful fast.

[boom]

Name calling over facts! What a way to discuss any issue. Typical conservative move and tactic. Clinton hands Bush a surplus, Bush hands Barack 2 wars, huge recession, and runaway debt. Yeah, I'm divisive. And have not and will never vote for a dog catcher GOP or any other office when a republican is on the ballot. Remember, the people spoke and decided which way they want to take the country from the last 2 presidential elections and no poll that is against the ACA beats out the election wins that Barack campaigned on. Sorry about the conservatives losing but they really need to take a step back and rethink their ideas and principles.

Thats right, the people spoke and gave the house to the republicans who are using checks and balances to control spending.

[Robalo]

Sorry MG, the semi-automatic rifle was found and yes, the walked gun, courtesy of the Obama Administration, murdered Border Agent Brian Terry. An autopsy found a single bullet from an AK-47 rifle lodged in Terry's body. It had entered his lower back, severing his spinal cord and the main artery to his heart. WTG Barack and Eric-you Da Men!!!

I guess that Anti-Islamic Movie caused the Benghazi Attack by Islamists upset by the "movie" and it was not a terroristic attack, which is exactly what Obama and Clinton said; only later they denied what they said and admitted it was a terroristic attack and they denied added security when asked before the attack. I mean who in the USA would ever think to beef up security at foreign posts in the Middle East on 9/11 anyway? What's so significant about 9/11 anyway? Why should we give more soldiers/protection to an Embassy, especially when they requested more security before 9/11? It just doesn't make sense to give an Embassy more security when they ask for it and when the CIA notes that an attack may occur (unless you are a stupid MoFo). No reason to fire General Ham (which Obama did) for his saying that they knew an attack was imminent and that he said he was told "No" to added security by the State Department (Clinton-your next Prez based on your voting-another lying POS that should be in Prison for her White Water Scandal-and isn't it quite a coincidence that the parties that could point fingers at the Clinton's are now dead??? Hmmmmm...................... You bet I'll vote for her-if I was a Dem and sucked up the lies like a dog at the water bowl. IMO, Clinton and Obama are murderers by allowing Stevens' and Terry's deaths and should be tried for accomplices to murder-along with Holder. I would certainly convict them.