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    I fished yesterday morning with a neighbor's visiting friend from Florida. The fishing was slow, so we talked a lot about things. This fellow was originally from Pittsburg where he worked for a large company. He was transferred to Florida to do environmental studies for his company. I told him that was a great move to make, because the fishing in Florida has to be better than Pittsburg.
    We taked about his job a bit and then he said that he didn't think it was fair for the CEO of his company to make so much money. He said the CEO makes 80 times what he makes, and that it just wasn't right. Now this fellow is my age, 63, so I told him, he was old enough to know by now, that life isn't fair. I asked him if he made a good salary and he said yes, that he was generously compensated for his work. So I asked why he cared what the CEO made? He again said it wash't fair.
    Without explaining the history of capitalism, I told him that the company shareholders had decided the CEO was worth what he was paid.
    Liberal utopians are ALL about fairness. The problem with being fair is; who gets to decide?
    "GET OFF MY REEF!"

  • #2
    Me!
    "Curmudgeon only pawn in game of life."


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    • #3
      LMAO..I bet he'd think it was ok and "fair" though if he were the CEO getting paid 80 times more than everybody else.

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      • #4
        Yeah , Barack would say the CEO had gotten some breaks that others had not . He needs to redistribute his wealth with others . No concept of hard work ethic , sacrifice , intellectual acumen , motivation and the such . In the 70's I was in a freshman English class . I don't remember why the lady professor was on the subject , but she went into this tirade about why shouldn't a garbage collector who works very hard get paid as much as a neurosurgeon . I was just a kid and didn't know much about anything but I remember thinking the answer was painfully obvious . Not everyone has the intellectual capacity , motivation , willingness to spend a total of 10-12 years in school earning zip money To be a neurosurgeon . Anyone with a strong back can collect garbage . There is nothing shameful about working hard as a laborer and earning an honest living . For the most part , your situation in life is completely due to your own decisions . A lot of people have been led to believe that they are owed something in life , entitled to a good life . This great country with the framework of the constitution , enables one to better tthemselves in life . Many immigrants have come to this country with absolutely nothing but the American dream and have become a success . The only thing you are promised in this country is life , liberty , and the pursuit of happiness . And that is a lot more than what is offered in most countries .
        GEORGE A. BRANARD, COLOR SERGEANT, CO. L, 1 ST TEXAS INFANTRY, HOOD'S TEXAS BRIGADE, C.S.A. : S.C.V.

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        • #5
          the only thing that makes life unfair is the delusion that it should be fair . Steve Maraboli unapologetically you .. reflections on life and the human experience


          sent from my taxpayer-funded sail phone and yes the government is tapped into my talk
          I LIVE IN A SMALL COMMUNITY WITH A LARGE PROBLEM AND A PROBLEM.

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          • #6
            good thing he didn't start out working in Florida, he would be making 80 times less than he does now! if your making good money don't complain.
            the fishing was good,it was the catching that was bad.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Curmudgeon View Post
              Me!
              Funny Bruce, but you believe in redistribution, or economic justice as the "progressives" phrase it.
              "GET OFF MY REEF!"

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              • #8
                The question is how much income have you given up in the last 30 years to go to the top 1% CEO's or wealthy ?
                "Nobody's so poor that somebody can't get rich screwing 'em."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mgstei1 View Post
                  The question is how much income have you given up in the last 30 years to go to the top 1% CEO's or wealthy ?
                  If you spend your life belly aching over how much money someone else earns, your career will suffer and you'll die bitter and miserable.
                  Shut up and FISH!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kenny View Post
                    Funny Bruce, but you believe in redistribution, or economic justice as the "progressives" phrase it.
                    I don't. I also don't believe the CEO is worth 80 times more the other guy though.
                    "Curmudgeon only pawn in game of life."


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Curmudgeon View Post
                      I don't. I also don't believe the CEO is worth 80 times more the other guy though.
                      Perhaps he's not, but if you were the CEO would you distribute your 80 times higher salary around to the other workers cause you felt like you didn't deserve it?
                      Shut up and FISH!!

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                      • #12
                        Worker bees make the honey. What's wrong with paying them too?

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                        • #13
                          Supply and demand , people . If your services are deemed more valuable than someone else 's , then you get the job and income . Some CEO's make crazy money , but those who pay it out figure it's money well spent because he will prosper the company and then have the funds to pay him and excess funds to prosper the company . He bombs , he's out . The Pittsburg guy doesn't deserve as much pay just because he breaths the same air . Let him apply for the CEO job .

                          A tycoon had a manufacturing plant . The head maintenance chief retired after many years of employment . Eventually the plant had a power malfunction that the maintenance crew could not resolve . Finally the owner contacted the former maintenance chief to please help them out . He arrived and after taking in the situation , pushed a sequence of buttons and levers and got things fixed . A couple of weeks later the owner got a bill for $ 25,000 . The owner called the man and complained about the high fee for just pushing some buttons and levers . The man replied the fee was not for pushing some buttons and levers , but for knowing what buttons and levers to push . The owner paid the bill . Do you complan that pro football players make more money than you ? Try out for the team . If you are better than a current player , they will hire you . Same with the CEO . You can't do it meat head so stop complaining .

                          stop wanting something to be given to you and get out there and earn it . Part of the problem is what we value as a people . Why do pro football players make insane money for playing a game and teachers who educate your children get paid comparatively little . The same goes for movie stars , bands , and those inane housewives of wherever reality shows that blather on and scream about vaporous
                          issues . I have to stop , my blood pressure is soaring .
                          GEORGE A. BRANARD, COLOR SERGEANT, CO. L, 1 ST TEXAS INFANTRY, HOOD'S TEXAS BRIGADE, C.S.A. : S.C.V.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by H.Maier View Post
                            Worker bees make the honey. What's wrong with paying them too?
                            they do get paid . Why does the queen bee not work and gets fed by the worker bees and taken care of ? Because she is the only one that can produce bees and keep the colony alive . She has an ability that the others do not have and is rewarded for it . Your thought process is screwed up with communist and socialist ideals . See how well that has worked out for those countries . You would have less than you do now .
                            GEORGE A. BRANARD, COLOR SERGEANT, CO. L, 1 ST TEXAS INFANTRY, HOOD'S TEXAS BRIGADE, C.S.A. : S.C.V.

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                            • #15
                              I have what I have because of " fair day's work for a fair day's pay". I don't care how much anyone makes so long as they don't steal it from someone else. I pissed a lot of my earnings off but it's o.k.

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