Yahama Oil for VMAX 2 stroke - what do you recommend?

[Explorer21]

You said lube

BTW, I purchased 2.5 gallons for $75.00 yesterday, maybe I should consider the 55 gallons????

[Redfishr]

I've been using Pennzoil synthetic since day one(2004) in my V-max 150.
I run some seafoam every few tanks and mine has always run like a top, so far, 5 years now.
Sonny at Sonny's Marine says not to, but he didnt tell me that till a few months back.
After 5 years, I aint changing now.

[rtoler]

Two Cents

I use the Yamalube and the ring free in my 200HP two stroke and have not had any probs. I used everything on my previous 130HP two stoke with no probs also. As an average sticking to the manufactures specs won't give you problems. I'm sure you can use other oils and gas on you moter but I tend to baby mine since I really hate engine problems....

[Hogie70]

I run Quicksilver; I was advised as well that it is just as good as the Yamalube...

[Ibtsoom]

I run e-tec XD-50 -- gotta buy it at the dealer -- it's 36 dollars a gallon if you just buy it --if you return the empty plastic jug it's 18$. That's the most expensive plastic jug I've ever seen!

[sand-tarpon14]

I use yamalube on my VMax 2 stroke, been getting it from Perkins marine off of Hwy 6 in Alvin for 25.00 a gal.
Theire phone # is 281 331 2071 talk to Wayne Perkins. I highly recomend this place.

[Explorer21]

Thanks for the information, I should try them out next time.

[Gater]

Oil

I have used WalMart Super Tech in My HPDI from the day it came out of the crate. I do use Yamaha ring free every fillup and change my filter regularly. I think it is about $10 a gallon. Gater

[Explorer21]

Thanks for the addition information, but I will not put any oil products with Walmart's name on it in my engine. $ 10,000 engine needs $ 30.00 a gallon oil and I am sticking with Yamalube.

[Gater]

Explorer21

Just passing the info.....My $10,000.00 engine is going on three yeras old and has done just fine with the Walmart brand as did the Mercury before it. I have used the oil for 7 years (two motors) with no power head issues.

Since there are only a few manufactures that produce TCW3 oil it could be possible Yamalube and the Walmart brand are from the same place. Of course Yamaha is going to recomend you use their oil and they can double or triple the price, they are making a killing off of it. All they can do is recommend it, they can't make you use it. Gater

[Explorer21]

Gater, thanks again. This information makes me really think. Believe me, it is hard to stomach $ 70.00 every time!

[West Bay Wader]

Gater is fairly close to being correct. There are not many people who make TCW3 oils. The same company used to make all of the Yammie, Merc, OMC and another major gasoline brand. I run the lubricants business for a large oil company and we have had the largest market position in small engine lubricants for many years. Now that being said there are some differences. The different OEMs specify what additive packages that they want in their oil. They are not all the same. They are all good but not the same.

If you want to really be scared you should see what kind of garbage some people market as oils for your cars and trucks. I am not talking about what is in a bottle. But what is in the rubber hose when you go to the quick lubes. But that is another story.

[plugger]

I've got the same motor. I'm not a machanic. When I bought it , the dealership said to use Yamalube, and ringfree. It's good stuff, but then they want to sell it too. I don't want to mess around with my outboard. I use Yamalube, Ringfree, Stabil and have the fuel line water filter as close to the engine as possible. I also use premium gas- it seems to run better. You shouldn't be having to add yamalube that often to go through the stuff quickly.

[shallowist]

The best Outboard tech that I ever knew, told me to stay with the Yamalube and use the ring free. By the time that he had told me that, I'm sure that he had looked at the inside of a few hundred, maybe thousand outboard two strokes.

Like West Bay Wader said, all companies contract the oil companies to produce, it's the additive packages that are specified, for sepcific metal formulations that tehy use for block, pistons, sleeves, rings, bearings...... Never had a problem with the Yamalube, and put a ton of hours on several Yammies over the years.

[Gater]

Oils

All oils must meet tough testing standards to be listed as NMMA certified TC-W3 oils. There are about 50 or so manufactures that produce TC-W3
certified oils. The WalMart Super Tech brand that I use is included in this list along with Yamalube and many others. The big difference is the Yamalube is about $35.00 a gallon and the SuperTech is $10.00 a gallon.
You are basically paying for the name and Yamaha is making $10-20.00 a gallon off of their name. They use the same engines to certify both and they both pass the test.

Of course Outboard manufactures want you to use their oil when they can make that much a gallon off of it. Those so called additives don't cost that much as pretty much all oils are made the same. This is not just for Yamalube or SuperTech, any oil that has the NMMA TC-W3 stamp on it is approved for your outboard.

I'm not trying to talk you into switching, just letting you know there are more options out there. I have been running it more than 6 years and all my friends that have boats run it with no issues. I have run my 2007 Yamaha HPDI 200 on the Supertech oil since it was brand new. Others I know have 700-800 hours on the oil with no problems.

Gater