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  • Curmudgeon
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    Originally posted by Robalo View Post
    So Medicare that my mother is on comes from the State of Texas-BS, it's Federal Law, not State Law.
    It's ridiculous that I even have to bother explaining this to you, but it's a federal program that was intended to be expanded by the states as part of ACA. Governor Goodhair and other Republican governors refuse to expand it. Duh!


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  • Robalo
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    So Medicare that my mother is on comes from the State of Texas-BS, it's Federal Law, not State Law.

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  • Curmudgeon
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    Originally posted by Robalo View Post
    It sure the hell is Obama's fault-it begins with his ObamaCare-open your eyes Bruce and quit obamaing it-it has nothing to do with the States-Medicare is a FEDERAL PROGRAM!!!!!!! Loss is due to ObamaCare, not some Governor or State issue-solely the loss is due to ObamaCare-sheezus, I can't believe you even can blame anyone but Obama for the loss-just absurd.
    Nice try, but you're dead wrong.


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  • Robalo
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    Originally posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    Sure, Kenny. It's all part of the vast left wing conspiracy to defraud voters. Thank goodness the Koch brothers, Glenn Beck and Dick Cheney are wise to it and fighting for the Murican way!
    If you want to talk about Medicare, why not mention that the majority of those losing it live in states where Republican governors have refused to roll out the Medicare expansion. I guess that's Obama's fault too?

    It sure the hell is Obama's fault-it begins with his ObamaCare-open your eyes Bruce and quit obamaing it-it has nothing to do with the States-Medicare is a FEDERAL PROGRAM!!!!!!! Loss is due to ObamaCare, not some Governor or State issue-solely the loss is due to ObamaCare-sheezus, I can't believe you even can blame anyone but Obama for the loss-just absurd.

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  • Curmudgeon
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    Sure, Kenny. It's all part of the vast left wing conspiracy to defraud voters. Thank goodness the Koch brothers, Glenn Beck and Dick Cheney are wise to it and fighting for the Murican way!
    If you want to talk about Medicare, why not mention that the majority of those losing it live in states where Republican governors have refused to roll out the Medicare expansion. I guess that's Obama's fault too?

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  • kenny
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    Bruce it's not a matter of "being in his head". He repeated the lie dozens of times on camera. The point is that he, as President and others in Congress, committed fraud on the American people to get the ACA passed. There is no way it would have passed, even on a strictly party vote on Christmas eve, if people had known that they were going to lose their insurance and many, including the elderly on Medicare, their doctor.

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  • JT
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    another follow up question

    You already said you thought he lied. So will Allah look the other way because he knows he may be too stupid to know when he lies and is simply repeating what he hears on the TelePrompTer ? Or will Allah grant him 20 virgins in the after life for destroying the America that was for over 200 years in a matter of 5.

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  • Curmudgeon
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    Jeeze Kenny. It's gotta be your way or the highway, huh. My point is the statements in the times are no different than the statements by the Bush administration or most others. You think he lied so that's your spin. You weren't there inside his brain to know what actually happened so I'd think your grasp on reality is as tenuous as the next guy, who happens to be me.

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  • kenny
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    [QUOTE=Curmudgeon;284405]
    Originally posted by kenny View Post

    Not parsing but trying to avoid the pigeonhole you keep trying to fit me into. Your first question is the equivalent of the old "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Query. It can't be answered yes or no without creating a false impression. You do in fact use President Bush statements as a rebuttal to the OP about the NY Times making up a new phrase for lying, just for Obama.

    As to your second question, I'm inclined to say yes, I believe he has. The only ones that truly know are he and god, or anyone with a grasp on reality!


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  • Curmudgeon
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    Originally posted by JT View Post
    Ok I have a follow up question:

    Do you believe then; that Allah will let him off the hook for lying since it was only to a bunch of infidel American people?
    C'mon JT, you dummy! You know he's not a Muslim: he's obviously Satan personified!

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  • SurfnFish
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    This is too...cool.

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  • JT
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    Ok I have a follow up question:

    Do you believe then; that Allah will let him off the hook for lying since it was only to a bunch of infidel American people?

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  • Curmudgeon
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    [QUOTE=kenny;284400]
    Originally posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    Never have.

    "Yeah, kinda like weapons of mass destruction or mission accomplished!"

    You're parsing Bruce, so I'll make it simpler. Did President Obama lie to the American people?
    Not parsing but trying to avoid the pigeonhole you keep trying to fit me into. Your first question is the equivalent of the old "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Query. It can't be answered yes or no without creating a false impression.

    As to your second question, I'm inclined to say yes, I believe he has. The only ones that truly know are he and god.


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  • Jerkyourcroaker
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    Originally posted by kenny View Post

    "Did President Obama lie to the American people?
    Only when his lips were moving.

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  • kenny
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    [QUOTE=Curmudgeon;284295]Never have.

    "Yeah, kinda like weapons of mass destruction or mission accomplished!"

    You're parsing Bruce, so I'll make it simpler. Did President Obama lie to the American people?

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